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Who here supports Michael Moore? 

70%
559 deviants said Who's Michael Moore?
22%
172 deviants said I do and am damn proud of his crusade to encourage change in America
9%
69 deviants said I don't, because he's just one big fat liar

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Hung-By-Balloons Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2009
Bowling for columbine is my fave out of them all
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ZoDy Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009   General Artist
I do support his ideals and also for his contribution to Rage Againt's the Machine's 'sleep now in the fire' music video, but I do find that he's become an easy target for comedians to knock him. But thats the price of fame, I loved Bowling For Columbine and still have to see Sicko, but yeah the guy is pretty epic for what he's doing with his documentries : )
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EvanStanley Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Student General Artist
I like what he's trying to do... but he's kind of annoying as a person.
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Blazincold Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Student
I'll be honest and click 'Who's Micheal Moore'?

I'll do some research on him, I've got some time to kill.
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Agirl3003 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Student Filmographer
wow XD surprised how many people dont know who he is lol. I liked his Sicko movie, but his most popular is Fahrenheit 9/11 if you heard of that one.
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm planning to watch the latter soon. And yes I'm pretty surprised not many deviants here who watch me know of the guy. Probably his films didn't appeal to the younger population but then it's not really the case when he has recently reached out to the young people with his 'Slacker Uprising' film...
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Agirl3003 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Student Filmographer
it's quite sad really. He talks about some very important issues DX I am looking forward to seeing Capitalism a Love Story XD just need money ;P lol. Though I suppose you are right. If it teaches them anything most kids don't care =( I got upset at hte kids in my highschool economics class who always complained about having to watch stossel, which I quite enjoyed ^^ I haven't seen Fahrenheit 9/11 yet though, just sicko 'cause we own it. I should see it sometime though.
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Red-Matter Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I watched Bowling for columbine...and I was approving what he was saying, some things are kind of stupid in america...what's funny is that he came to Canada and he was opening the doors of randoms house and they were unlock, like to say that Canada was better than America cause danger was less here
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Just show's how friendly and welcoming Canada is... I got relatives in Vancouver and visited them for 3 weeks. It's been a fantastic journey and I got to learn so much about the Canadians. Some of the nicest people indeed.

And BfC was the nuts. I enjoyed watching that - entertaining and educational.
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Red-Matter Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah ^^did you come in winter or in summer?
Someday you should come visit québec, it's nice in winter, especially in february, we got the Carnaval de Québec, I like this period ^^

yeah I watched that movie in class in secondary 4 I think
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Emily-Young Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist Filmographer
I chose : Who's Michael Moore? Cause I've never really heard of him until your Journal.XD" Though his name rings a bell hmm....Guess I could ask around and see!
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Watch the films I recommended on the list. I'm very sure you can find one in the library. You'll learn a great value about your culture.
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Emily-Young Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist Filmographer
XD! Well, Elson to be honest....You won't learn about America's culture in books, or movies, or anything like that... Just come over and live here a couple of years, and you'll learn ALL you can!XD
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Gerkuman Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This poll needs another option. 'I believe in some of what he says, but not all of it'

To be fair, most people would pick that one, but the poll as it is seems to be portaying a 'false dilemma'
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Good point.

Though I wanted to keep it as blunt as possible with the YES and NO vote. :D And it's in the context of 'supporting Moore's works' rather than 'believing everything he says' kind of concept. ^^
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Riokan Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
i dont care about him so. (i know who he is but na.)
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Frobman Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009   Filmographer
Never really listened to his stuff, so meh!
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Man you should go check it out Frobman. You'll be entertained with BfC. He talks about why there shouldn't be any need for guns in America...
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MysteryEzekude Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
It seems like most people around here don't even know who Michael Moore is! Neither do I. XD
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BlazeTBW Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:O I probably support more of what he's trying to do and that he's taking it upon himself to get the information out-

-I can't say I highly support 'im though, but he gets one thinking that's for sure~
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed, indeed. :)
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UncleChuckTH Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009
On that subject, I consider myself liberal and a progressive. Still, I am not as radical as MM and really I see his methods of getting his points across as being very evocative and promotes friction with the other party.

In short I think his heart is in the right place but he could do without the attitude if he really wanted those changes to be made.
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting view point. I feel that if there isn't a guy like Moore daring enough to expose the truth then the potential for changes in the system/culture won't be implemented at all.

I reckon it's proactive thinking that he's trying to get his own people to do and if they agree with his conclusions then it's up to the people to take further action.
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UncleChuckTH Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2009
Fair enough, but his viewpoints certainly don't warrant compromise.
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nikkihog Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009  Student General Artist
in social studies class we had to watch Sicko and i learned alot. It saddens me that the place i live in Canada might get this sort of health care some day u_u
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AgentWebdog Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Completely nuetral. He makes some good points, but at the same time... he tends to take some low blows, and doesn't explain things from multiple perspectives at all. It's kind of a "This is my opinion and this is right." sort of thing.
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah interesting. Could you share with me some examples Lin? I'd love to hear from someone with a neutral perspective. :)
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AgentWebdog Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Basically Micheal Moore has a lot of good views on the world-yet he tends to over exaust them and attempt to force his views on you. I'll start with some of the bad, then list the good. Some of his facts (mostly the trivial ones) are uncited and untrustworthy. He also tends force his politcal opinions on things that shouldn't even be Political, such as Bowling for Columbine he shows a montage of U.S. forien affairs. In this montage he seems to contradict himself, showing the U.S. in a negative light refering to a bunch of wars and military hostility, then turn on us when we give Financial aid (Millions) to Afighanistan, then ruled by the Taliban.

If we can't hurt them, yet get critized for giving them money because they plan to hurt us, what are supposed to do? Sit there and smile and wait for events like 9/11 to happen? (Basically there are two ways to be heard by another country that hates you-give them money and become part of their alliance, or show them that you're not to be messed with.)

So obviously he's not happy when we give aid to other countries (Also refering to when the U.S. helped Train Osama Bin Laden, while they were under attack from the U.S.S.R) and then gets mad if we engage a country in war. I don't think there's any 'winning' here.

He blames the U.S. history for it's 'violent' becomings yet, there's not really much in history that effects us today. Some of us kids, born and 1990 feel the illusion that the cold war was more that a couple of decades ago, that the threat of nuclear war is trivial, impossible. We're not imposed on violence all the time. We're taught to fear death, and that killing is wrong in our schools (Which also teaches history) and since he also disproved the Television, Video Games, and Marylin Manson theory, what else is there to blame it? The U.S. has a lot of people packed into space. With larger poopulations there's more interaction, and with more interaction there's bound to be more of ANY sort of incidence, be it car accidents, murders, rapes, whatever. We aren't born with bloodlust in our hearts, just because we're in a country with a history of wars. (Hell, our country tried to AVOID war in WWI and WWII, isolationism.) There are also countries not accounted for with similar gun death ratios to the U.S. which have much less violent history.

In Fahrenheit 9/11, he turns to take Bush into a criticizing manor. He first notes the election controversy in which Bush was supposedly frauded into presidancy (Which there was never any real proof of, also nevermind Obama and the various mysteries surrounding where he was born -People believe that his birth cirtificate was faked, and that he wasn't born in the U.S. at all, due to his... distant family, the fact that his birth cirtificate conviently showed up when it was neccissary after being 'missing'.) He goes on to state how Bush was unconcearned about the 9/11 attack while reading to a bunch of kids. At that time, the 9/11 attack, the first plane, nobody knew it was a terrorist attack. It could have very well been an accident, or a plane frosting over. All he was told was that "A plane crashed into one of the twin towers". While in the Elementary school, he was told a second plane had crashed into the twin towers. Bush finished his story (Taking a meager 7 seconds) and then delt with the situation. There wasn't much he could have done in that seven minutes. He wasn't going to turn into Superman and fly to New York.

Moore goes from there on to the Iraqi War. He speaks about how people are against it, and how everything was misleading. The stance on the was was that Iraq hated us, and there was supposedly Nuclear Weapons (Which they did later find two deactivated Russian War heads). That's a pretty good reason to confront a country in war and it was better safe than sorry. He neglects to mention that the majority of the Nation was supporting the war. They wanted to send our troops over. And in the good American way, once people started dying, and it took over a year, they started to turn on their previous support. Bush Basically infiltrated Iraq based ont he publics demands. After all the chaos caused, the U.S. couldn't just pull out. They have to make sure things are a little more stable, lest they deal with another Vietnam. It's impossible to have a war where men don't die.

Now believe me when I say this Going to war is not something I support I'm merely stating how unfair it is that all this mud gets thrown on Bush. What if those Nuclear warheads were active. What if they were fired at the U.S. and killed billions of people? Then what would of happened. That's where things took a turn to 'lets not risk it'. I believe, yes, more research should have been done.

Now, Micheal Moore's good points.

In his documentaries he definately makes a lot of good points. A lot of truths be fortold. For example, in Bowling for Columbine, he makes it known how easy it is for a person to get a gun without a background check. In the U.S. we all have the right to bear arms, but there are various clauses that if you've done something wrong, then that right is taken away as punishment. The ease in which guns are smuggled to and from the U.S. was also brought to Attention. He brings up the fact that in the media we can occasionally be desensitised to death ( "There was a deadly car accident. Four people killed" - you may think "Oh, too bad." but other than that, it's just simple thing that gets no more than 30 seconds of your time). Even when celebrities are shot in the streets, we don't pay much mind. "It doesn't matter, I don't know them" - and that's a very dangerous way of thinking.

Moore Also adresses various flaws in the goverment. Corruptions, miscommunications. Things that shouldn't happen that contributed to the cause of the Iraq war. The fact that certain, inhuman steps are taken that cause the deaths of many people who don't deserve death because of miscomminications or not enough research. Moore brings to the light many little details that get 'over-looked' by the goverment that later turns into big details. In other words, he shows that the U.S. government doesn't do their job carefully enough.

So Moore brings a lot of truths to the surface, but also a lot of crap too. A lot of his movies would do a world of good if they were a little bit more unbiased. He has the right ideas but he executes it the wrong way. (Although I don't believe in his anti-capitalism views at all) *Phew*
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AgentWebdog Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Also, and important point, guns were for back in the time when war was raging between the U.S. and Britian. Back where there was no military or law enforcement, and you needed to defend yourself. Now-a-days, it's pretty obsolete to have this right.
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SSJShadowX Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My thoughts exactly.
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zakuten Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009
Although I'm a liberal, and definitely support a lot of his stances, I find him too personally repulsive to want to have anything to do with anything involving him. ~sweatdrop~
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xXFireFoxGirlXx Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Ermmmm.
Who's Michael Moore? :noes:
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TRegnier2795 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009
Perhaps it is just my inclination to view anything that is in quotation marks and isn't a quote as sarcasm, but the pro-Michael Moore option appears to me to be loaded with sarcasm.

However, I do, indeed, sympathise with more than a few of his views and do enjoy his body of work.
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Cripes, thanks for the correction. I just wanted to emphasis on the important term but the quotation marks also mean sarcasm on a applied term... XXD
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vcat Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009  Hobbyist
The lard guy?
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darkspeeds Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Support Material: Michael Moore
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